One of today's things rarely seen

"Cé hé sin" (michael-m-mouse) 06/15/2019 at 17:42 • Filed to: Mack

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Mack truck. Not sold here (trucks with sticky-out fronts are unsuitable for haulage here) so must have been imported as a complete package with the drilling rig.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Cé hé sin 06/15/2019 at 17:56

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Mack and Volvo are part of the same group now, so could they have began recently?

Cé hé sin > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 06/15/2019 at 18:14

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That’s a 2008 truck though.

Nobody’s going to start selling front engined trucks here - they’re not economic for haulage use . I’m guessing that the operator imported it privately because it came with the equipment they needed.

not for canada - australian in disguise > Cé hé sin 06/15/2019 at 18:24

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I’m not sure what’s weirder, a Scania in Canada or a Mack in Ireland.

And nobody buys Mack trucks in the Americas either. I believe they trail rather far behind other brands like Volvo, Kenworth, and Western Star (at least in Canada). They’re a very rare sight indeed, and only really seem to be used in construction applications, and in Canada the construction market is still dominated by Kenworth’s T800 and Western Star’s 4900A.

Also fun fact! Western Star used to own ERF (the British truck brand) until Daimler bought Western Star and ERF was sold to MAN and a few ERFs made it to Australia and New Zealand as the Western Star Commander (known in the British Isles as the ERF EC11) .

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Cé hé sin 06/15/2019 at 18:33

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Those rigs are stupid expensive, so yeah, that makes sense. We work with a driller than has one, and even though it’s old and breaks constantly, it still is cheaper to fix it.

ranwhenparked > not for canada - australian in disguise 06/15/2019 at 19:24

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Mack’s like #6, behind Freightliner, Kenworth, Peterbuilt, International, and Volvo, but, if you combine Volvo and Mack together, they’d be #2 (or #3 if you also combined Kenworth and Peterbuilt).

They do better in certain segments though, the Mack Granite line has been the best selling HD straight truck (eg, non-semi) for several years. Think that’s what that drill rig is.

not for canada - australian in disguise > ranwhenparked 06/15/2019 at 19:52

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Yep. I think that the Granite is really the only one that sells well in Canada, and still kinda lags behind the T800 and 4900SA in that specific segment.

But on the other hand, the Volvo VNL is incredibly popular here, especially with fleets. Pretty much only second to maybe the Cascadia.

Of course, these are both the old models and both have received pretty substantial updates, but the old ones are still dominant.

Seems like every manufacturer has their specialty. Mack and Western Star for more severe duty/off highway usage, Peterbilt for owner-operators, Volvo and Freightliner for on-highway fleets, and then Kenworth for a mix of owner-operator stuff (W900) and severe duty/off highway (T800).

shop-teacher > not for canada - australian in disguise 06/15/2019 at 23:05

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I saw a big Scania COE tractor in Illinois a couple years ago. I was stunned.

MultiplaOrgasms > shop-teacher 06/15/2019 at 23:23

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In the 1980s Scania officially sold the Series 2 in the US, most of them in the north eastern states.

MultiplaOrgasms > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 06/15/2019 at 23:30

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A brand new truck is expensive, especially when fitted with specialized equipment, but the depreciation on these is beyond even what german luxury cars could dream of. A 5-6 year old truck with reasonable mileage  will set you back at best a third of the original MSRP.